“Tell the world what’s happening”: Uyghur refugees on escaping genocide in China

By Khaleel Rahman,

Jessica Severin de Martinez, Catie Talarski, Meg Dalton, Megan Fitzgerald, Chion Wolf

Published August 10, 2023 at 9:27 PM EDT

1 of 5 — Painting: “Where They Hide“

Used with permission from the artist who wishes to remain anonymous.

2 of 5 — Julie Millsap is the Government Relations Manager at Uyghur Human Rights Project.

Julie Millsap is the Government Relations Manager at Uyghur Human Rights Project.

3 of 5 — Omer Kanat is the Executive Director of Uyghur Human Rights Project.

Omer Kanat is the Executive Director of Uyghur Human Rights Project.

4 of 5 — Zumrat Dawut is a Uyghur woman whose experience of escaping Chinese concentration camps was the basis for a story that won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for Illustrated Reporting.

Zumrat Dawut is a Uyghur woman whose experience of escaping Chinese concentration camps was the basis for a story that won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for Illustrated Reporting.

5 of 5 — Tahir Izgil (right) is a Uyghur poet, filmmaker, and author of "Waiting to Be Arrested at Night: A Uyghur Poet's Memoir of China's Genocide". He is interpreted in this interview by historian and co-author, Joshua Freeman (left).

Tahir Izgil (right) is a Uyghur poet, filmmaker, and author of "Waiting to Be Arrested at Night: A Uyghur Poet's Memoir of China's Genocide". He is interpreted in this interview by historian and co-author, Joshua Freeman (left).

"Never again."

That was the vow the international community took after the Holocaust, pledging to never repeat the kind of actions that led to the death of over 6 million Jewish people.

Unfortunately, the horrors of genocide have been seen again - in Armenia, in Rwanda, and now, in China.

On this episode of Audacious, meet a woman who was assaulted and forcibly sterilized while in a concentration camp. And a celebrated writer talks about his new memoir, Waiting to Be Arrested at Night: A Uyghur Poet's Memoir of China's Genocide.

Today's episode contains subject matter that is not suitable for children.

GUESTS:

Julie Millsap: Government Relations Manager at Uyghur Human Rights Project
Omer Kanat: Executive Director of Uyghur Human Rights Project
Zumrat Dawut: A Uyghur woman whose experience of escaping Chinese concentration camps was the basis for a story that won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for Illustrated Reporting. She is interpreted in this interview by Zubayra Shamseden
Tahir Izgil: Uyghur poet, filmmaker, and author of Waiting to Be Arrested at Night: A Uyghur Poet's Memoir of China's Genocide. He is interpreted in this interview by historian and co-author, Joshua Freeman

Khaleel Rahman, Jessica Severin de Martinez, Meg Fitzgerald, Meg Dalton, Carol Chen, Stacey Addo, and Catie Talarski contributed to this show.

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