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Motion To Call Witnesses Defeated, Or: Poo Pooing On The Pu Pu Platter On Mount Boredom


The Senate has voted, 51 to 49, not to subpoena witnesses or documents in its impeachment trial of President Trump. Closing arguments are expected on Monday, and a verdict could come next Wednesday afternoon.

This week, Colin and The Gist's Mike Pesca puzzle over the Republican strategy and Alan Dershowitz. He's the Trump attorney who argued that the president could engage in a quid pro quo that benefited him personally as long as he believes his reelection is in the public interest. Dershowitz believes the media misunderstood his argument. These are his words.

And New York Times TV critic James Poniewozik gets into the impeachment as television. He's not entirely sure democracy will be renewed for another season.

Plus: another edition of Factoids with Chion Wolf, and we sent intrepid reporter Frankie Graziano back out into the world to talk to more of the elusive "regular people."


  • Carmen Baskauf - Producer for Where We Live and the occasional host of The Carmen Baskauf Show on Connecticut Public Radio
  • Frankie Graziano - A reporter at Connecticut Public Radio
  • Dahlia Lithwick - Writes about the courts and the law for Slate and hosts the podcast Amicus
  • Mike Pesca - Host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist
  • James Poniewozik - Chief television critic for The New York Times and the author of Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America
  • Chion Wolf - Producer, photographer, and announcer at Connecticut Public Radio

Thanks to Eugene Amatruda.

Email us your questions at pardonme@ctpublic.org.

Pardon Me is a production of The Colin McEnroe Show on Connecticut Public Radio.

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